Hi everyone I need your input before I post this this is what we are currently dealing with and we don't know what else to do.
Hi friends I need to ask a huge favour this is happening right now and we need your help. I am not using names to protect privacy.
Tonight a little girl is by court order in a place she is not permitted to be she should be with her Dad at her home with her new puppy but she is not, this afternoon her mothers Dad decided to kidnap her and I'm not talking walking to her front door and take her from her home...he drove with force into the side of the vehicle which this little girl was travelling in to start her school holidays at her grandmothers...her grandmother on her dad's side that is!
This little girls grandfather was unable to get out of the car in time to stop him from taking this little girl and her puppy. The police were called but that was just an hour of giving statements the most important line in that statement was my Som has by court order full custody of his little girl.
The police responded by telling him to and I quote "Place a DVO on the perpetrator and tell your Som not to do anything just let it pan out and first thing Monday apply to the court for a recovery order of his little girl"
Meanwhile his Son his understandably tonight beside himself left wondering why he has spent thousands fighting for custody for his little girl, 4 years of fighting to keep his little girl safe he finally got that little piece of paper the court order because every time he fought to get his little girl safe again the police would say "we can not intervene with out a court order...he finally gets it and now he needs a recovery order before the police can help.
DOCS have been notified but apparently they can not recover the child immediately unless there is evidence of sexual abuse only.
The lawyer was called and was told to contact DOCS as it was a quicker route to get something done sooner rather than later.
After many other phone calls including phone calls to hospitals to see if maybe his little girl was brought in to treat lacerations to her face from the glass from her recent car accident Dad is still no closer to getting his precious little girl and her puppy home.
This little girl will be traumatised possibly hurt and has not been robbed of her safety net that her father put in place to keep her away from the people that do not deserve to have her in their life!
It is starting to infuriate me that the authorities are doing nothing to help my friend so I'm reaching out to all the mums and dads out there to please share this and help us to get this message to who ever it needs to get to get some action to remove the red tape and bullshit of the system to get this little girl home safe where she belongs!
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There’s nothing they can do at this point.
Police can obtain the child after an accident though to ensure medical intervention was sought, so the fact they haven’t makes me think there’s lots to this story that hasn’t been told. Like why an order would be necessary to stop grandparental rights?
Wait until Monday and get a recovery order.
Thank you yes there is lots to the story and as it a friend my partner and I are not sure on hard facts of whole story as we are just getting one side however we do know for a fact the child's mother has been arrested for driving under the influence & drug use whilst pregnant 4 times in total in past 12 months and during another custody battle between mum and dad at the school she was charged with drug driving and that's the only reason dad was able to take her home that day or the mother would have got her again. I just feel for my friend so much he's a great dad and gives his all to his daughter to see him how he was yesterday was heartbreaking.
There are no grandparental agreements at this stage he has a custody agreement that has been through the courts and the police are not upholding that legal document and I think it's the least they can do under these circumstances how safe is she with someone that just rammed his car into the car she was travelling in order to steal her away from her dad that alone should be enough to worry about this poor little girls welfare...the grandfather said she was screaming no no!! She is 8 years old and does not deserve this!!
Look, I agree. But the facts are if she was kidnapped they would do something. Technically, it is kidnapping, or “removal of child by force” but, because they haven’t acted in that way says something more to me - the person isn’t a threat to the child, the car crash never happened, or there is purely more for the police to resist taking the child b force or sending out an alert.
I would distance yourself from the situation, seek legal advice an attempt a recovery order. If you know where the person is, there is literally nothing stopping the father from taking the child back.
I have to agree with this. I feel like if he has court orders that he has custody and the child was taken and in those conditions, police would act. Surely they will do a welfare check on the child as she was in the car accident and taken from the scene.
This is too much for any of us to judge due to the nature of this, there’s obviously a lot more to the story which we can’t or don’t know.
You probably need to seek legal advice.
Is she is dire danger or are they a threat to her? If not and it’s all relating just to custody, maybe be rest assured she is safe with them right now just to ease your worries.
Grandad rammed a car thst the little girl was a passenger in, I don't know but that sounds like she's in danger to me.
So they can't even do anything about the car accident? And what about medical attention for the little girl? Poor kid. It really is scary when stuff like this happens and you see how useless recovery orders are.
I can't get my head around it all either but basically this poor kid is being treated like a possession and nothing anyone can do. Police say the child is not in physical danger but what about mentally? dad showed me a document that said the girls mother must abide by certain rules to see the child on weekends one of many is have a clean drug test and she has failed several times among a lot of other stuff she has also failed to do. But she can snatch the kid from school whenever she feels like it and the police are powerless until you lodge a recovery order. I do not understand this.
Grandfather on dads side had picked her up from her dad's place and was taking her to his home for the school holidays was met along the road by grandfather on mothers side who rammed the car then took the child and her puppy. We are out bush, dirt road accident police where called attended took photos of marks on road etc, I've seen the car, accident definitely happened and I've read the police report. Grandfather on mothers side who took the child had 2 charges laid on him can't remember one of them but the other was dangerous operation of motor vehicle causing wilful damage or some crap it should have been a lot worse, so frustrating and feels wrong the police should have not aloud her to stay with the grandfather yesterday.
This little girl is already so traumatised she hardly speaks and other than protesting she doesn't want to go with her mum which I have witnessed myself as I regularly do our school bus run, she doesnt put up a fight she just gets dragged from pillar to post :(
Thank you everyone for your support I got all emotional and angry last night I wanted to spread this far and wide it's just not fair on this little girl I just want it all to be ok for her :(
Sounds like a terrible situation, I hope that the recovery goes smoothly and she doesn't suffer anymore trauma.
Police don't handle this, courts do, definitely follow that through. You'll be able to get a dvo and clauses added that prevent him coming anywhere near the child.
Immediately though, I don't understand how on earth you can crash a car and steal a child and have no criminal charges against you.
PS. You see police amber alerts all the time for children believed to be with a parent who shouldn't have them, so they definitely DO take action on this.